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Complete job coaching oriented towards the Swiss job market

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You deserve the best when it comes to perfecting your CV, cover letters and preparing for job interviews. This is why I am here, with eight years of experience in the field, to offer you a professional and quality service.

Wherever you are, sessions can be carried out via webcam for flexible, fast and efficient assistance. Using my expertise and experience in this field, we will work together to refine your CV and create impactful cover letters that will make you stand out to employers. In addition, it is possible to do scenarios to best prepare for recruitment interviews. My goal is to help you successfully achieve your professional goals.

My courses are aimed at:

* Experienced adults looking to advance in their career: Whether you're looking to get a promotion, develop new skills, or change industries, my courses are designed to meet your needs.

* Young people looking for an apprenticeship: If you are looking for your first professional experience to enter the job market, I offer you complete support in finding an internship or apprenticeship place.

* People looking to make a career change: For those considering a career change, my programs provide the tools and knowledge needed to succeed in a new field.

Everyone is welcome: Whatever your background or goals, my courses are open to everyone and I am committed to supporting you in your professional development.

To guarantee your peace of mind, all information collected during our sessions is strictly confidential. I also undertake to delete any document belonging to the student once the sessions are over.

Look no further for quality professional help. Contact me today to benefit from an initial session to discuss your goals!

Extra information

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Skype, Zoom or Google Meet

Location

Online via webcam

General info

Age:
Teenagers (13-17 years old)
Adults (18-64 years old)
Student level:
Beginner
Intermediate
Advanced
Duration:
60 minutes
The class is taught in:French, English, Italian

About Me

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I am a social worker passionate about supporting individuals in their professional and personal development. Benefiting from a rich and varied career path, I had the chance to support different paths, whether for a first integration into the world of work or a reintegration after a break.

I am fully engaged in each follow-up, using my expertise to provide individualized advice and tailored solutions. My primary objective is to enable my clients to achieve harmony between their skills and their aspirations, both professionally and personally.

My method is based on a global analysis of the specific needs of each individual. I believe that building strong relationships, based on trust and mutual understanding, is essential to ensure long-term success.

As you will have understood, my professional commitment consists of supporting my clients in achieving their personal and professional goals, ensuring that they find their place and fulfillment in all aspects of their lives.

Education

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HES university diploma in social work and various continuing education courses as part of my various jobs
Compulsory education completed in Switzerland until high school maturity

Experience / Qualifications

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8 years of freelance experience providing job search assistance
9 years of experience as a social worker with different populations and in different contexts
If you feel overwhelmed by a mountain of paperwork or have difficulty juggling your finances and the procedures related to Swiss social insurance, now is the time to ask for help. My goal is to offer you personalized support to regain control over these aspects of your life and to give you advice on how to regain some peace of mind. As an experienced social worker for almost ten years, I offer my services to people concerned about discretion or seeking to avoid long telephone waits for public services. My aim is to provide personalized and confidential support, tailored to each individual. You can count on my availability and attentive listening to help you in your efforts. Together, we can sort and organize your documents, develop a realistic budget and navigate the complex social insurance system. My approach is centered on you, with particular attention to your needs and with the aim of overcoming your difficulties. For added flexibility, our sessions are held online, allowing you to participate from home, at a time that suits you best. In addition, I undertake to guarantee the complete confidentiality of our exchanges and your personal information. Whether you're looking to find peace of mind, tips and answers to your questions, I'm here to guide you every step of the way. Don't let stress overwhelm you - contact me today to start taking back control of your administrative life.

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